Are China Used Screens a Good Investment?

March 6th, 2023

Over the years we have often been asked to help in finding quality screens on fast delivery or at a budget price point, and we have been able to supply many screens from China manufacturing clearance stock or former demo stock. These export quality screens are cleaned up, refurbished and pass our FAT inspection before shipment.

From late 2020 however, perhaps encouraged by low cost demand during the Covid-19 years, we began to see a lot of activity around low cost China used screens and were invited to inspect several of these.

The used screens on offer are usually brand name events style products which perhaps should offer some comfort however these are not manufacturing stock, not even original manufacturer’s demo stock but are being offered by brokers who are assisting China based rental companies to sell off unwanted stock. Of the product we have inspected the oldest has been in use since 2018 and all were manufacture for the local market not meeting international standards.

Further these used screens are not usually ready to ship so not a speedy solution to an urgent delivery schedule. The owner usually releases the screen to the broker following an order, it is then shipped to the broker’s facility where repairs such as LED replacement are done. Cabinets are cleaned, new flight cases may be arranged or old cases cleaned but otherwise the target is functionality. Spare parts may be limited, if available at all, while mechanical damage such as scratches, dents and damaged masks are not repaired or replaced.

Damaged Masks
Scratches

Warranty is also very limited and often the older a product the more difficult it can be to locate replacement power supplies and receiver cards.

The facilities where the screes are cleaned up prior to shipment may also be limited in space with only a small screen install possible for FAT at any one time. This means that a full FAT takes much longer than would normally be the case with an original manufacturer.

Older screens are generally more power hungry than newer models, LEDs lose 10-15% brightness per year and screens lose uniformity with age, recalibrating to achieve uniformity even if possible loses another 15-20% brightness. It also costs the same to ship a used screen as it does a new screen. Overall whether a heavily used screen from the China events sector is a good investment is certainly questionable.

If considering such a purchase there are a lot of concerns to be addressed, the age, lack of spares, extent of physical damage, general performance and after sales service but I would highly recommend eyes on the screen as early as possible.

We can help with a professional inspection of your purchase, or better still let’s discuss your targets and we can help provide an affordable new or as-new screen to meet your budget complete with spares, warranty and FAT inspection.

Bateman Consulting FAT – January-February 2023

February 22nd, 2023

After a busy year end January was somewhat quiet but FATs picked up after the Lunar New Year for a total of almost 1300sqm for Jan/Feb 2023 mostly for indoor fixed install projects and curved screens. The pitches for these screens ranged from P1.2 to P2.8 for fixed install and P1.9 for events ready.

Below are images of the 11sqm P1.2 fixed install Indoor screen, 42sqm curved P1.9 events ready indoor screen and 158sqm P2.8 fixed install outdoor screen.

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2023-02 P1.2 Fixed Install Indoor 11sqm
2023-02 P1.9 Curved Events Ready Indoor 42sqm
2023-02 P2.8 Fixed Install Outdoor 158sqm

Jan 2023 – Latest Facade Project

January 20th, 2023

Latest facade project supported by Bateman Consulting Ltd, over 45,000 high bright LED pixels arranged on 100mm pitch for a 450sqm soft mesh facade screen. Convenient panel arrangement makes for fast on site installation.

We have extensive experience with large pitch facade screens with many installations since 2012 as well as adapting the technology for the events industry and 3D effects screens.

Pleased to discuss new project opportunities.

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Bateman Consulting FAT – December 2022

December 30th, 2022

Unfortunately we ended 2022 with a repeat of early 2020 with a resurgence of Covid in China affecting factory preparation and scheduling. There were several postponements some of which postponed till after the new year but we were still able to complete the bulk of FATs despite those delays. We conducted inspections on 850sqm of LED product, with pitches that ranged from P1.5 to P10. Most of these were for fixed install products. Below are a few images of the screens that we inspected. To discuss your inspection or LED supply needs please enter your name/email in the contact us field at the top of this page.

2022-12 Events Ready Outdoor Product P3.9 63sqm
2022-12 Fixed Install Indoor Product P1.5 70sqm
2022-12 Fixed Install Outdoor Product P10 120sqm

Bateman Consulting FAT – November 2022

November 30th, 2022

During November 2022 we completed FATs on 500sqm of LED product with pitches that ranged from; P1.25 to P2.5. Most of the screens we inspected were fixed install applications, with some including curved product. Below are some images of the screens that we have inspected. To discuss your inspection or LED supply needs please enter your name/email in the contact us field at the top of this page.

2022-11 Fixed Install Indoor Curved Product P1.5 27sqm
2022-11 Fixed Install Indoor Product P1.875 21sqm
2022-11 Indoor Product P1.25 21sqm
2022-11 Events Ready Indoor Product P2.5 408sqm

120% Expansion 2020-22

November 21st, 2022

I recently posted that 2022 had seen a 30% increase in FATs against the pre-Covid best but what is perhaps more impressive is that while FAT numbers were down during the Covid year 2020/21 we have actually seen a 120% increase in our client base between 2020-22.

We also expanded our FAT services from our traditional comfort zones of Huizhou, Shenzhen and Dongguan to include long distance FATs in Sichuan and Jiangsu provinces.

While 2020 certainly saw a dramatic fall off in terms of FATs we weathered the storm and already saw a recovery in 2021 with some very large projects including a marathon 21-day FAT.

With the growth during 2022 we are looking forward to seeing what we can achieve in 2023.

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500m2 P3.9 Pitch Events Ready Product – Dec 2021 FAT

Only 7% of LED Display Screens Passed FAT in 2022

November 14th, 2022

2022 has seen almost a 30% increase in LED display screen FATs compared to 2019, the last Covid free year, but 2022 has also seen many more challenges than in previous years both in terms of manufacturing failing to meet committed schedules and also the volume of issues identified during the inspection.

A factory acceptance test is the opportunity for the manufacturer to demonstrate that the product meets specification and performance criteria. It takes place after the factory has conducted its final QC stage and should therefore be ready to pack, yet only 7% of LED display screens passed FAT without corrective action in 2022.

For the most part we are conducting FATs at well known manufacturers at the top end of the manufacturing scale but if you are still wondering why you need an FAT for your new LED display screen purchase here are 6 reasons.

  1. 55% of screens had electronic failures during FAT including dead LEDs, IC issues, dull or bright LEDs, soldering issues etc.
  2. 49% of screens had mechanical issues such as black patchiness, module gaps or steps, flatness issues, loose, missing or misplaced masks, latch issues etc.
  3. 33% of screens were not ready for the FAT, including not all panels available, aging not complete, calibration not done, spare parts or flight cases not available, final factory QC not done but the majority or 20% of FATs were postponed often with little or no notice.
  4. 26% of screens had scratches or paint issues either due to inadequate supplier control, missed at IQC or handling damage during manufacture.
  5. 20% of screens were patchy on white, red, green or blue.
  6. 3% of screens had visible thermal effects.

The majority of issues can be resolved through factory rework but our detailed FAT and clear reporting offers the client the support needed to make sure that whenever possible these issues are resolved before shipment and not after the goods arrive in your warehouse. It is always so much more difficult and costly to get corrective action after delivery.

Our FATs are conducted by industry veterans with considerable experience in LED display screen manufacture, we provide a detailed report and support the report with images and videos of all stages and everything found during the FAT so that the client can analyze the findings and reach a qualified decision on any concerns raised. Being locally based in Shenzhen & Dongguan, and operating mainly in the Shenzhen, Dongguan, Huizhou areas means we can handle late schedule changes far easier and at lower cost than overseas visitors. We can also conduct FATs in other regions of China more cost effectively than overseas visitors.

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Bateman Consulting FAT – October 2022

October 30th, 2022

October 2022 was a very successful month for Bateman Consulting we conducted FATs on close to 870sqm of indoor LED screens for events ready applications. The pitches for these screens ranged from P2.5 to P2.9. Below are a couple images of the screens that we have inspected. To discuss your inspection or LED supply needs please enter your name/email in the contact us field at the top of this page.

2022-10 Events Ready Indoor Product P2.9 475sqm
2022-10 Events Ready Indoor Product P2.5 393sqm

Bateman Consulting FAT – September 2022

September 30th, 2022

In September 2022 we conducted FATs on approximately 200sqm of a variety of indoor and outdoor LED screens for mostly fixed installations, including the use of COB technology. The pitches for these screens ranged from P1.2 to P5.95 for fixed install and P2.5 for events ready. Below are some images of the screens that we have inspected. To discuss your inspection or LED supply needs please enter your name/email in the contact us field at the top of this page.

2022-09 Fixed Install Outdoor Product P3.95 50sqm
2022-09 Fixed Install Indoor Product P1.56 6sqm
2022-09 Fixed Install Outdoor Product P5.95 30sqm
2022-09 Fixed Install Outdoor Product P5.95 16sqm
2022-09 Fixed Install Indoor Product P1.9 10.75sqm
2022-09 Fixed Install Indoor COB Product P1.2 19sqm
2022-09 Events Ready Indoor Product P2.5 approximately 50sqm

Bateman Consulting FAT – August 2022

August 30th, 2022

In August 2022 work in China was slightly affected by Covid restrictions but we were still able to complete FATs on more than 960sqm of outdoor and indoor LED screens including fixed installation, events ready, transparent and curvable screens. The pitches of the screens ranged from P1.9 to P3.9 for events ready applications and P5 to P16.67 for fixed installations. Below are some images of the screens that we have inspected. To discuss your inspection or LED supply needs please enter your name/email in the contact us field at the top of this page.

2022-08 Event Ready Curvable Indoor Product P1.9 35sqm
2022-08 Outdoor Transparent Screen Product 108sqm
2022-08 Fixed Install Outdoor Product P8 200sqm
2022-08 Fixed Install Outdoor Product P5 100sqm
2022-08 Events Ready Outdoor Product P3.9 101sqm
2022-08 Events Ready Indoor Product P2.5 101sqm
2022-08 Fixed Install Outdoor Product P16.67 80sqm